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Post  togashi_naiteiru Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:00 pm

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (1)

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (2)

# Dynasty (40)

# Holdings (18)
3 Gold Mine
3 Colonial Temple
2 Exotic Market
2 Secluded Outpost
1 The Emerald Dojo
2 Traveling Market
3 Vengeful Populace
2 Yasuki Trader

# Personalities (22)
3 Mirumoto Higaru
3 Mirumoto Niwa
3 Mirumoto Nokkai
3 Mirumoto Tsukazu
3 Mirumoto Hikuryo
1 Kimura, Forgiver of Sins
1 Kitsuki Daisuke - exp2
1 Kitsuki Kinaro - exp
1 Kitsuki Nakai - exp
1 Mirumoto Shikei, the Laughing Dragon
1 Mirumoto Katagi - exp
1 Togashi Mitsu - inexp

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (23)
2 Sudden Movement
2 Breaking the Rhythm
3 Demonstrating Technique
3 Do Not Delay!
3 Iaijutsu Dojo
3 Sanctioned Duel
3 In Stillness, Forge the Soul
2 Coward!
1 Creating Order
1 Elemental Adroitness

# Items (13)
3 Family Sword
3 Sadamune Blade
2 Lost Blade of the Maharaja
2 Versatile Blade
3 Utaku's Destiny

# Rings (4)
1 Ring of Air
1 Ring of Earth
1 Ring of the Void
1 Ring of Water

# Senseis (1)
1 Hojatsu Sensei

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I changed around the gold a bunch... and now I feel like I have too much sometimes, and not seeing enough personalities. But its miles better then no gold which was my original problem. Personalities, I am still mucking around with. I have a fantasy I can use the Kitsuki to punish all the dishonored people my duels create, plus they are duelist. I may drop Kimura, Forgiver of Sins for Kalen, but his gold cost is so expensive, and Kimura is free most of the time.

Fate wise, I am needing to test this out, in my frictionless void of gold fishing it seems to work well. The weapons are attaching, I am seeing duels, I believe I have some good synergy, but I need to test against steel to see if this is holding water. I would like to run with all five rings, but maybe that is just a pipe dream.

Thoughts?
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Post  Sleep Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:23 pm

I would shoot for 14-16 holdings.
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Post  panku Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:51 pm

16-18 is standard from what I've seen. Not a fan of yasuki trader, the chances of seeing the shuffled cards are marginal at best. I would only run 2 venegeful populace. Having too many 3g cost holdings will make your gold really clunky, I'd drop the traveling markets in favor of 4g or 2g holdings.

I'd only run 1-2 copies of nokkai, every copy you see after the first is basically a blank 2f for 6g in a deck that is hurting for force.
I don't like any of the kitsuki, low/no force and above box honor requirements is a bad combo for military.

Youe missing the best duel in ivory, exposing weakness, a battle kill duel. I'd drop sanctioned duel to make room for it. Just remember, you have to bow the sensei to use its bow effect, having too many limited duels has diminishing returns.

Kimura is only good if you intend to run air in almost all your games. He's a dead draw if you have to pay gold for him.
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:09 pm

Ya, I dropped Weakness Exposed for its low focus value. But I suppose I can absorb the single Focus of 2.

Otherwise, thanks for the suggestions. I cannot disagree with any of that.

I am trying to shy away from the 4 gold holdings, but I do like Productive Mine.
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:38 pm

Gold scheme is much better now. =)
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:58 pm

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (1)

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (2)

# Dynasty (40)

# Events (2)
1 Dark Audience
1 Journey's End Siege

# Holdings (18)
3 Gold Mine
3 Colonial Temple
2 Secluded Outpost
1 The Emerald Dojo
3 Vengeful Populace
3 Exotic Market
2 Shrine to Hachiman
1 Bamboo Harvesters - exp

# Personalities (20)
3 Mirumoto Niwa
3 Mirumoto Nokkai
3 Mirumoto Tsukazu
3 Mirumoto Hikuryo
1 Mirumoto Shikei, the Laughing Dragon
1 Mirumoto Katagi - exp
1 Togashi Mitsu - inexp
1 Mirumoto Kalen - exp
3 Mirumoto Yasushi
1 Togashi Noboru, the Shattered Star - exp

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (23)
2 Sudden Movement
3 Iaijutsu Dojo
3 In Stillness, Forge the Soul
2 Coward!
1 Creating Order
3 Weakness Exposed
3 Stand or Run
2 Back to the Front
2 Demonstrating Technique
2 Do Not Delay!

# Items (14)
3 Family Sword
3 Akodo Kaiken
2 Spiked Tetsubo
3 Dotanuki
3 Utaku's Destiny

# Rings (3)
1 Ring of Air
1 Ring of Earth
1 Ring of the Void

# Senseis (1)
1 Hojatsu Sensei

After play testing, this is how the deck is sitting. I have a few cards I am up in the air about. This is the deck I am taking with me at the moment.

3 Mirumoto Hikuryo - his fear has yet to ever be used.
1 Togashi Noboru, the Shattered Star - exp - I find that his honor loss has been a problem.

I still need to do testing. But if anyone else sees any flaws, has suggestions, or else have some insights, your welcome to cast them.
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Post  Sleep Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:06 pm

togashi_naiteiru wrote:1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (1)

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (2)

# Dynasty (40)

# Events (2)
1 Dark Audience
1 Journey's End Siege

# Holdings (18)
3 Gold Mine
3 Colonial Temple
2 Secluded Outpost
1 The Emerald Dojo
3 Vengeful Populace
3 Exotic Market
2 Shrine to Hachiman
1 Bamboo Harvesters - exp

# Personalities (20)
3 Mirumoto Niwa
3 Mirumoto Nokkai
3 Mirumoto Tsukazu
3 Mirumoto Hikuryo
1 Mirumoto Shikei, the Laughing Dragon
1 Mirumoto Katagi - exp
1 Togashi Mitsu - inexp
1 Mirumoto Kalen - exp
3 Mirumoto Yasushi
1 Togashi Noboru, the Shattered Star - exp

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (23)
2 Sudden Movement
3 Iaijutsu Dojo
3 In Stillness, Forge the Soul
2 Coward!
1 Creating Order
3 Weakness Exposed
3 Stand or Run
2 Back to the Front
2 Demonstrating Technique
2 Do Not Delay!

# Items (14)
3 Family Sword
3 Akodo Kaiken
2 Spiked Tetsubo
3 Dotanuki
3 Utaku's Destiny

# Rings (3)
1 Ring of Air
1 Ring of Earth
1 Ring of the Void

# Senseis (1)
1 Hojatsu Sensei

After play testing, this is how the deck is sitting. I have a few cards I am up in the air about. This is the deck I am taking with me at the moment.

3 Mirumoto Hikuryo - his fear has yet to ever be used.
1 Togashi Noboru, the Shattered Star - exp - I find that his honor loss has been a problem.

I still need to do testing. But if anyone else sees any flaws, has suggestions, or else have some insights, your welcome to cast them.
I still don't like mixing and matching Colonial Dojo with Secluded.  IMHO you should be running one, or the other, not both.  You are risking some very awkward gold flips currently.

Aside from that, I think the best thing you can do is just playtest the hell out of this.  You need to know it inside and out.
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Post  panku Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:29 pm

At 2 focus stand or run is not worth it. You also have too many weapons, 14+3 In Stillness is effectively 17 weapons. Drop 3 dotanukis and a In stillness for more proactive actions, like entrentched or ruthless determination.
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:09 pm

@sleep, ya I have had bad flips from those before. It is rare, but constancy is the key and can ruin you in a tourney. I will try some different holding mixes, and see what I can come up with. Try and stick to a 2 good cost. The Johny in my wants to put Oracle of the Void so badly! And consider it an event I buy for six good.

@Rich. Really? Slimming down the weapons? I will trust your judgement and try with less, but I have found I had just enough. But I will still try it and see if that gives me the edge I need.
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Post  panku Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:28 pm

You are also missing Elemental Adroitness, which might be the best card in the deck.

Personally, i would drop kiaken as i don't feel it gives enough force, putting it on a 3f personality only makes your guy 4 force and still easily in the range of most r/m actions. At 5 force you can feel a little safe, but i wouldn't be comfortable till my guys where at 6 force.

You should probably drop Shrine to Hachiman as well, the only weapon you have that benefit is the Kaikens.
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:36 pm

Shrine to Hachiman was there for that weapon and also Vengful Populace. Need the weapons straight for the defense is good. The problem is I am not sure what other holdings could go in it's place. 


And ya, the 1 Force bums me out, but it's force swing in a battle is amazing. But I need to threaten to take provinces in the first place. :/
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Post  togashi_naiteiru Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:29 am

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (1)

1 The Remote Monastery of the Dragon (2)

# Dynasty (40)

# Events (3)
1 Journey's End Siege
2 Purge of Fudoism

# Holdings (17)
3 Gold Mine
1 Bamboo Harvesters - exp
1 Counting House
3 Nexus of Lies
3 Vast Paddy Fields
3 Famous Bazaar
3 Ashigaru Fort

# Personalities (20)
3 Mirumoto Niwa
3 Mirumoto Nokkai
3 Mirumoto Tsukazu
1 Mirumoto Shikei, the Laughing Dragon
1 Togashi Mitsu - inexp
3 Mirumoto Yasushi
3 Mirumoto Hatsuto
2 Togashi Korimi
1 Mirumoto Kalen - exp

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (28)
3 Sudden Movement
3 Iaijutsu Dojo
3 In Stillness, Forge the Soul
2 Coward!
1 Creating Order
3 Weakness Exposed
2 Back to the Front
2 Do Not Delay!
1 Elemental Adroitness
2 Ruthless Determination
3 Entrenched Position
3 Demonstrating Technique

# Items (10)
3 Family Sword
3 Utaku's Destiny
2 Justice of the Crane
2 Akodo Kaiken

# Rings (2)
1 Ring of Air
1 Ring of Earth

# Senseis (1)
1 Hojatsu Sensei

Richard, here is the deck updated, for the cards.
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