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Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Moto Damasko on Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:00 am

Anthony's Deck List: 

1 The Golden Plains of the Unicorn (1)

1 The Golden Plains of the Unicorn (2)

# Dynasty (40)

# Events (2)
1 Dark Audience
1 Riot in the Second City

# Holdings (16)
1 Counting House
3 Stables
1 Temple of Tengen
1 The Jade Temple
1 The Topaz Dojo
3 Traveling Market
3 Fudoist Temple
1 Bamboo Harvesters - exp
2 Famous Bazaar

# Personalities (22)
3 Iuchi Wattu - So Blank... much sad... no horse...
3 Iuchi Honma - So Blank... much sad...
1 Iuchi Karasu - inexp
3 Moto Daiken  - So Blank... much sad...
1 Moto Ming-Gwok - exp
1 Moto Naleesh, the Living Goddess - Eh?  Maybe she wear hat? be shugenja also?
1 Moto Taigo, the Skull Taker - exp - overcosted, not that great...
1 Moto Ulagan - Probably should be running more of these, 2x maybe?
1 Shinjo Kinto - exp (pick one, xp2 ish better)
1 Shinjo Kinto - exp2
3 Shinjo Tobita - If focused on fear yes... he's solid, HR is painful
1 Tsiang, the Benevolent - Solid
2 Utaku Hyo-Yeon - Much blank...  Reserve dough

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (19)
1 A Game of Dice
1 Creating Order
3 Entrenched Position - we can find something better
2 Fall Back! - I like this as a 3x in decks with stacks... 
3 Okura is Released - kills shit
2 The Turtle's Shell - Needed
3 The Wrath of Osano-Wo - kills shit
2 Unholy Strike - helps kill moar shit
2 Versatile Army

# Items (4)
1 Koan's Staff
3 Dat-Haramaki-do -  fixd

# Spells (15)
3 In Awe of the Earth - I like it, why for ruthless require samuwai... 
3 Kiyoshi's Wrath - can this be replaced with a fear or ranged attack? 
1 Koan's Whisper - shit's broke...
2 Searing Siege
3 Suitengu's Embrace - is there anything better? (see below)
3 Touch of Death - we'll see how it plays... Maybe 2x?  limited kill is so boring -..-

# Rings (2)
1 Ring of Air
1 Ring of Earth

# Senseis (1)
1 Akikazu Sensei


Other Brain-storming:

Other Shugenja Options:  Preferably not blank shit... 
- Luchi Chiwa - Good battle ability, shugenja in clan, and no honor requirement, gains two honor why is she not in?
- Dark Naga - sac to the sensei for fear all big, if you can buy it, they should be scured. 
- Komori Taruko - Solid force to gold, solid ability, solid chi. 
- Non - Unique mantis shugenja are okay, low force, bad abilities. 
- Unique Mantis shugenja are all amazingly good, but requires running the school of wizardry. 
- Tairao doesn't cause an honor loss from spider and has a solid ability. 

Other Attachments:
- Ominous Armor - Stack protection, force is a problem... 
- Nagimaka of what does the fox say - Decent battle action, + chi?  Cost though... 
- Cast Aside Appearances - This might be viable... the one honor hit might be sneaked in due to its amazing force and ability...
- Deafening thunder - I like it because its a force penalty in battle with no tempo loss if its big enough, and it's 0 gold attach. 
- Sailors warning - it's a ranged attack... 
- Summon Fuschico? If I have dead slots and really need a specific item?  Probably not good... 
- Hidden power - ?  Worth running to retrieve something better?

Strategies: 
Force is a problem...   The shugenja with high force have honor requirements, which means you have to land an HR you can afford to buy.  Most of the Hr's you can afford to buy that are cheap are not currently in the list, Okaiu, chiwa.  I think the goal is turn 2 is to buy a dude for honor and double-gold. 

Back to the front?  3x back to the front and 2/3x chiwa (for honor) covers all the movement I'll need imo. 



SCRIBBLE SCRIBBLE SCRIBBLE...  fuck this deck...
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Kakita Hideo on Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:18 pm

Much hate. So opinonated. Wow

Fuck this meme
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Moto Damasko on Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:12 pm

I just hate the idea of BLANK DUDES... with honor requirements I don't meet.  IT's just dumb design, sure some of the spells are powerful but they have no force. 

If you want to see the "shitty forum feedback":
http://www.unicornclan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1834&sid=75d303d3a2b4de2699fe3595d078e503

Though I think in general the discussions I start support my clan members well. 

I think it has some power behind it but I hate the inconsistency of having to buy HR.  I've run into it once already with yoshie and losing to that is much embarrass.  IT kills shit.
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  panku on Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:29 pm

Koans scroll satchel needs to be in the deck to combo with searing seige.

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Post  Moto Damasko on Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:57 pm

I don't think so, there isn't much that deals with spells to begin with.  Where other decks have a 0 force dude, whoever siege is on is going to be big enough for battle.  It's debatable.
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Post  panku on Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:22 pm

People will simply remove the guy with the spell, they don't have to remove the spell itself. The only possible answers to Koans is to remove all presence or to harpoon the guy with searing seige. The combo wins games. Any deck that can get the combo in play consistently is a tier 1 deck.

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Post  Moto Damasko on Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:38 pm

panku wrote:People will simply remove the guy with the spell, they don't have to remove the spell itself. The only possible answers to Koans is to remove all presence or to harpoon the guy with searing seige. The combo wins games. Any deck that can get the combo in play consistently is a tier 1 deck.

Seems like a blanket statement...  So we have to look out for that shugenja deck that runs walking fuschico's to get the scroll case?
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Sleep on Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:09 pm

Rich is right.

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Post  Sleep on Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:09 pm

Btw did you actually build the deck in egg and test it?

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Post  Moto Damasko on Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:23 pm

Sleep wrote:Btw did you actually build the deck in egg and test it?

I've been just jotting down the ideas, I haven't tested it because we haven't had an egg session in a while.   Always up for testing...   Just playing with different concepts.  I just view blanket statements in general as poor.  

While I hate the idea of running a deck with HR problems and blank dudes, the spells are powerful and I can see the potential in the deck, we'll see, I don't think it's amazingly more or less powerful than other variants.   

I do like the fear synergy though which is something I was looking for in the best of deck (which I won't find atm).  We'll see how it plays...  I can already see what you suffer through in having dead cards in hand from spells no longer being playable like strats.
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Moto Damasko on Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:59 pm

Updated List: 
Akikazu Sensei... 

23 Bodies: (Half meet HR and will gain me honor, Could include some non-uniques but I like the consistency of every body besides the two paikao and tsiang being able to attach the power of the deck)

2x Paikao (Meets HR)
2x Chiwa (Meets HR)
3x Daiken (Meets HR)
3x Ulagan (Meets HR) (Makes someone dead)
2x Wattu (Makes himself Dead)
3x Honma (4 HR)
Ming-Gwok (Meets HR)
Luchi-Karasu (1 buy)
Komori-Taruko (Meets HR)
Tsiang the Benevolent (Meets HR)
Moshi Rukia (All three Mantis Meet requirements)
Moshi Sasako (Meets HR)
Moshi Tomiko (Meets HR)
Dark Naga (Mostly to pitch for dead)

16 holdings:

3x School of Wizardry
3x Stables
3x Traveling Market
3x Famous Bazaar
2x Shrine to Hachimon
Bamboo Harv exp
Jade Dojo

2 Events:
Riot in the Second City
Dark Audience


Spells: 13 + ?

3x Awe of Earth
3x Deafening Thunder
3x Sailor's Warning
2x Touch of Death
2x Searing Siege
2x Candles Flame?
2x Yojimbo of earth?
Koans Whisper?
2x cast aside appearances? (gives the force I need and a relevant battle action, the 1 honor hit isn't that bad once you get going)

Other Attachments: 1+?
Koans Staff
Ominous armor to protect stacks?
Nagamaki for chi?
Haramaki-do for fear stacking with awe of earth?
Thunder-Blade?  Blow all your spells...  ??? ...  Profit, Repeat?

Strats:15
3x Okura Unleashed
3x Wrath o Osano Wo
3x Fallback
3x Back 2 Front
2x Turtle Shell
Creating Order
???

Deck is basically kill everything, if something is still alive, run.  I need to test it...
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Sleep on Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:10 pm

I still don't see koans scroll satchel in the list

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Post  Moto Damasko on Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:03 pm

Can see if I can slot it in somewhere fate side is not even tested.
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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  panku on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:47 am

3x searing seige. It pitches to itself so is never a dead card.

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Post  panku on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:08 am

Increase komori taruko to 3, she is one of the best shugs in your deck. You can also run 3x Myuken, he is basically a 3f 4g shug in your deck. Both will really help to drop the curve if your deck.

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Post  panku on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:29 am

If your going to add items, add justice or family sword, they add chi to fuel your spells and get you some much needed force.

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Re: Shitty Ten Yen Wang - Unicorn Sensei build

Post  Moto Damasko on Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:15 am

Didn't even realize she was non-unique.  For some reason I thought she was unique because of how good she is for the cost!

Biggest problem the deck has is early force, this resolves that problem.

Going to also put together just a generic best off modification that utilizes the sensei.
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