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Post  Moto Damasko Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:06 pm

Probably what I'll be playing for the next tournament.


1 The Utaku Plains
# Dynasty (40)

# Events (2)
1 Crossing the Forbidden Sea
1 The New Order

# Celestials (2)
1 Shinjo's Guidance
1 Daikoku's Guidance

# Holdings (14)
3 Stables
2 The Blessed Herd
3 Clan Estate
2 Traveling Peddler
1 Kitsune Den
1 Expendable Resources
2 Barley Farm

# Personalities (22)
1 Utaku Fujiko - exp
3 Utaku Jin-lao
3 Utaku Kana
1 Utaku Kohana - exp
3 Utaku Liu-Xeung
3 Utaku Toshie
1 Utaku Yu-Pan - exp2
1 Moto Chen - exp3
3 Moto Jeng-Yun
1 Moto Jin-sahn - exp
2 Utaku Hana

# Fate (40)

# Strategies (34)
3 The Wind Never Stops
3 Riding in Harmony
3 Downhill Assault
3 Desperate Rush
3 Rout
3 Outer Walls
2 Shameful and Cowardly
3 Sneak Attack
2 Inexorable Defeat
3 Determined Force
2 Civility
2 Proper Deference
1 Preparedness
1 The Thriving Light

# Followers (3)
3 Utaku Elite Guard

# Items (1)
1 Heavenly Lance of the Unicorn

# Rings (2)
1 Ring of the Void
1 Ring of Water
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Post  Kakita Hideo Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:04 pm

Not a fan of civility. Someone once told me that if the personality you civility can't solo a province then you shouldn't do it. I think that slot could be better utilized somehow.
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Post  Moto Damasko Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:23 pm

I figure any battle maiden can take a province with a riding in harmony, it's mostly also for smoothing out gold so you can flood the board. IE buy more gold second turn then civility someone in third turn to swing.
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Post  Moto Damasko Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:51 pm

1 outer walls/1 thriving light and 2x civility comes out for 3x cost of pride. Other option is dropping the proper deference, don't know on that.
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Post  Pruto Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:22 pm

imo thriving light is a better meta card than pd
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Post  Moto Damasko Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:36 pm

Pruto wrote:imo thriving light is a better meta card than pd

Considering dropping PD all together, keeping civility, and finding room for a 3rd shameful and cowardly (not that I have a third :/)
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Post  Pruto Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:51 pm

i have a set of shamefuls, but why BM?
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Post  Moto Damasko Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:19 pm

Feel like playing something different from my standard, been playing attachment heavy commander decks out of unicorn for a long time.
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Post  panku Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:13 pm

Drop Daikoku's imo. Doesn't do enough for this deck to risk losing a Shinjo's.
Drop an Expendable for Chugo Seido and try to fit in a third Blessed herd.
An Alter History would be nice too.

I also dislike Civility in this deck, doesnt give you enough tempo to make it worth the slot.
Considering how well Crane is doing, i'd drop Inexorable for Beloved and put in the third copies of PD and S&C. Besides there aren't any regions or terrains that really hurt Battle Maidens.
You are cav, Ring of the Void is practically useless. You could probably afford to drop to 2 sneaks for the same reason.
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Post  Moto Damasko Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:51 pm

panku wrote:Drop Daikoku's imo. Doesn't do enough for this deck to risk losing a Shinjo's.
Drop an Expendable for Chugo Seido and try to fit in a third Blessed herd.
An Alter History would be nice too.

I also dislike Civility in this deck, doesnt give you enough tempo to make it worth the slot.
Considering how well Crane is doing, i'd drop Inexorable for Beloved and put in the third copies of PD and S&C. Besides there aren't any regions or terrains that really hurt Battle Maidens.
You are cav, Ring of the Void is practically useless. You could probably afford to drop to 2 sneaks for the same reason.

Daikoku improves overall gold in a blitz deck, don't you run daikoku out of lion? Additionally it plays nicely in tandem with kitsune den.

As for shinjo's I'm considering dropping it all together... it simply activates unstable ground for all of my people.

I was considering dropping expendable for counting house, the card draw is important.

While its easy to say that "cavalry" automatically means you don't go to an opposed battle, that's often not the case, especially against honor matchups this deck wants to go to battle.

It purposely runs on engagement combo to make that work, which is the reason for 3x sneak, and ring of void.

Alter-history is on the consideration, don't own one though.

Short of changing large amounts of the deck based on no play-testing I'm gonna mostly stick with what I have, its done well at 2 kotei's already.


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Post  Moto Damasko Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:08 pm

And what I'll be playing today...

1 The Utaku Plains

# Dynasty (40)

# Events (2)
1 The New Order
1 Crossing the Forbidden Sea

# Celestials (2)
1 Daikoku's Guidance
1 Shinjo's Guidance

# Holdings (14)
3 Stables
2 The Blessed Herd
3 Clan Estate
2 Traveling Peddler
1 Kitsune Den
2 Barley Farm
1 Counting House

# Personalities (22)
1 Utaku Fujiko - exp
3 Utaku Jin-lao
3 Utaku Kana
3 Utaku Liu-Xeung
3 Utaku Toshie
1 Utaku Yu-Pan - exp2
1 Moto Chen - exp3
3 Moto Jeng-Yun
1 Moto Jin-sahn - exp
2 Utaku Hana
1 Shinjo Kodama

# Fate (40)

# Strategies (34)
3 The Wind Never Stops
3 Riding in Harmony
3 Downhill Assault
3 Desperate Rush
3 Rout
3 Outer Walls
3 Shameful and Cowardly
3 Sneak Attack
2 Inexorable Defeat
3 Determined Force
2 Civility
1 Preparedness
1 The Thriving Light
1 Ultimate Sacrifice

# Followers (3)
3 Utaku Elite Guard

# Items (1)
1 Heavenly Lance of the Unicorn

# Rings (2)
1 Ring of the Void
1 Ring of Water
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Post  Gosh Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Moto Damasko wrote:As for shinjo's I'm considering dropping it all together... it simply activates unstable ground for all of my people.
Toshie, Kana, Yu-Pan, and Utaku Elite already do that for you. Never drop Shinjo's out of Maidens.
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Post  Moto Damasko Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:55 am

Gosh wrote:
Moto Damasko wrote:As for shinjo's I'm considering dropping it all together... it simply activates unstable ground for all of my people.
Toshie, Kana, Yu-Pan, and Utaku Elite already do that for you. Never drop Shinjo's out of Maidens.

Yeah, this is true, might as well just keep the inexorable and thriving.
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Post  Moto Damasko Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:16 am

So my review of the deck against an odd LSC and big crab heroes.

The deck ran all over the hero deck, but I don't know whether that was bad draws or not. The "combo" nature of the deck is awesome in terms of kill actions/pre-battle control/harpoon.

Like I said the deck chooses to attack in opposed because it effectively runs its own for of dynasty side sneak attack (2 personality combo) which can be huge. I like that desperate rush goes through weapons, and I love downhill assault, that card wreck's face. Considering running scouting as a possibility for more combo-tastic fun but hard to find a place (could drop the civility), we shall see.

As for LSC/crane honor the deck is tough and I know my match-up against it is tough as well, I need to buy lots of gold and get lots of bodies and flush hard for new order/chen. Beyond that the opposed battle with shameful is huge and The wind never stops abuses the crap out of the force penalty for instant dishonor kill.

My one consideration (pending playing more honor decks) is putting in two proper deference and dropping a single shameful.

I also need to play against dishonor to learn how to counter it.
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Post  Moto Damasko Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:34 pm

So changes I want to give a try today...

So... some change-up's.

-1 outer walls
-2 Civility
-3 elite guard
-3 rout

Proper def goes in (honor)
False accusation goes in (dishonor/military)
Cavalry tactics goes in (move in/rehonor)
2x of each.
3x My life is yours (multiple bow)

Dynasty side
-2 barley farm (bye bye shiney promo T..T, no rout means no use)
+2 oyo seido (dishonor meta)
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Post  Gosh Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:50 pm

Moto Damasko wrote:
-1 outer walls
-2 Civility
-3 elite guard
-3 rout

Proper def goes in (honor)
False accusation goes in (dishonor/military)
Cavalry tactics goes in (move in/rehonor)
2x of each.
3x My life is yours (multiple bow)

Dynasty side
-2 barley farm (bye bye shiney promo T..T, no rout means no use)
+2 oyo seido (dishonor meta)
So you're running naked Maidens? I like the Proper Def add and the Civ drop, I don't like My life is Yours one bit. I'd keep Utaku Elite Guard- it lets you solo a province on Kana, Tohie, or Yu-pan so it's another Riding in Harmony 3rd turn with the bonus of being persistent afterwards. My life is yours seems like a pretty niche card- is it your Breeder meta? If not I'd throw something more versatile like Superior Mobility in there.
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Post  Moto Damasko Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:52 pm

Gosh wrote:
Moto Damasko wrote:
-1 outer walls
-2 Civility
-3 elite guard
-3 rout

Proper def goes in (honor)
False accusation goes in (dishonor/military)
Cavalry tactics goes in (move in/rehonor)
2x of each.
3x My life is yours (multiple bow)

Dynasty side
-2 barley farm (bye bye shiney promo T..T, no rout means no use)
+2 oyo seido (dishonor meta)
So you're running naked Maidens? I like the Proper Def add and the Civ drop, I don't like My life is Yours one bit. I'd keep Utaku Elite Guard- it lets you solo a province on Kana, Tohie, or Yu-pan so it's another Riding in Harmony 3rd turn with the bonus of being persistent afterwards. My life is yours seems like a pretty niche card- is it your Breeder meta? If not I'd throw something more versatile like Superior Mobility in there.

It's my consideration for breeder meta that doesn't suck against everyone else and is solid vs lion.
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Post  Gosh Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:54 pm

The drop False Accusation and keep Elite Guard imo- you don't want *too* much Force redux anyway.
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Post  Moto Damasko Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:57 pm

Something like this?:

# Fate (41)

# Strategies (35)
3 The Wind Never Stops
3 Riding in Harmony
3 Downhill Assault
3 Desperate Rush
2 Outer Walls
3 Shameful and Cowardly
3 Sneak Attack
2 Inexorable Defeat
3 Determined Force
2 Proper Deference
1 Preparedness
1 The Thriving Light
1 Ultimate Sacrifice
2 My Life Is Yours
3 The Cost of Pride

# Followers (3)
3 Utaku Elite Guard

# Items (1)
1 Heavenly Lance of the Unicorn

# Rings (2)
1 Ring of the Void
1 Ring of Water

My only consideration is on whether the guard are pulling their weight. If they aren't then I want to replace them with something that does.
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Post  Gosh Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:32 pm

They're one of the best force to gold ratio followers in the game; they're another Maiden so they benefit Kana, Toshie, and get the bump from Yu-pan; and they're cheap attachment protection.

edit: and drop something to go to 40- maybe a Determined Force?
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Post  Moto Damasko Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:38 am

Gosh wrote:They're one of the best force to gold ratio followers in the game; they're another Maiden so they benefit Kana, Toshie, and get the bump from Yu-pan; and they're cheap attachment protection.

edit: and drop something to go to 40- maybe a Determined Force?

force is solid, ranged 2 kill action off downhill, it kills spuds, and its powerful for the unopposed defense. It's important to have 3. I'm fine with sitting at 41 with a ring of void floating about.

rout is out for my life is yours. The follower is fine as well, just wish I could fit those two false accusations in, but we shall see with more play. I was highly let down by PD today, but then again I need to play an actual crane honor runner, the lcs I'm playing is "odd". Either way the deck is fun as hell to play and does relatively okay.
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Post  Moto Damasko Wed May 04, 2011 11:08 am

To put it league of legends style, the deck has consistency problems and falls over to deck types that run justly. IE every single military deck that should be playing besides naked lion that it also loses too. So... League of Legends style... "Executed!", I'll be moving onto a deck based on the Tacoma unicorn build.
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